Note: The segments with Matt were recorded in early March, when we were just beginning to get an idea of just how serious the outbreak of COVID-19 really was going to be for our country. Michael’s segment was recorded in mid-February, due to a previously schedule trip. Things have changed all across the country since this was recorded, and both Matt and Michael have shared a few organizations that they’d like listeners to consider supporting if you have the resources. Due to a hectic work schedule during this crisis that leaves little time or bandwidth for editing, the follow episode is lightly edited and contains many of the stammers and pauses that are usually trimmed.